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Jordan Friedman's avatar

This is all so heartbreaking. And the comments section here is a depressing combination of obnoxious hasbara and actual instances of anti-Israel antisemitism that even the Zionist center-left wrongly assumes is the primary motive behind criticism of Israel. From my perspective, it isn’t that hard to see that the way Israel has been using temporal power for most of its existence constitutes immoral and (from a religious Jewish perspective) sinful domination of another people. To make matters worse, not only does it constitute the sin of oppressing strangers, but actually it’s oppression of people who *aren’t even* strangers. Fellow Semitic people with related language, culture, customs, and two different related religions. It’s obscene. It’s fratricide.

On the other hand, every time someone writes something beautiful and thoughtful as Murtaza has here, the comments section proves that mainstream Jewish voices aren’t hallucinating the fact that plenty of legitimate criticism of Israel or Zionism bleeds over into scapegoating antisemitism. This is morally wrong and tactically unhelpful to everyone’s cause.

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Lasse W. Jensen's avatar

Super interesting and thoughtfully worded as always.

However, you write: "I condemned the Israeli killings of civilians on October 7 with utmost sincerity. But that has become an irrelevant side note to events at this point. Every perpetrator of genocide claimed to have been driven by compelling political or security concerns." [I assume you mean 'the killing of Israeli civilians']

The following is besides the point as to whether the Gaza war constitutes a genocide or not, but: As far as the Israeli perspective goes, It seems to me you focus a bit too narrowly on just Gaza. In Israel, this war was not experienced as merely an attack by Hamas, but as a (more or less concerted) multi-front attack by Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran - enemies that had (especially in the case of the two former) armed themselves to the teeth and rigged their own territories for maximal aggression against Israel. The subsequent war effort has above all been concerned with ensuring that no enemy armed to the teeth can ever again constitute itself on Israel's borders (the IDF's operations in Syria should also be seen in this light). This has been - and is being - borne out through destruction of military infrastructure as well as deterrence in the case of Hamas, in the sense of setting an example of what will happen to an enemy who elects to go the distance with Israel. This is obviously just a rough sketch of the overall picture. Mixed in it, and complicating it, are Netanyahu's personal interest in extending the war for his political survival as well as his messianic coalition's interest in full-fledged ethnic cleansing (this is also to say: I don't take your Netanyahu quote as actual intention (though it would obviously be entirely fair to construe it as such), but I do take Smotrich's as intention). However, the present and future destruction of military threats on Israel's borders remains the guiding principle overall. I would argue that even the Smotrich approach is far from being just messianic, it is also (perhaps even above all) a more hardline take on the concept of annihilating military threats on Israel's border.

The above is intended as a bit of nuance, not to outright disagree with anything you write. However, I would certainly argue that the threats against Israel are far greater than the threats against the Turks by the Armenians or against the Serbs by the Bosnians. But that is of course only if you consider the threats against Israel in a regional scope and not just look at Hamas in Gaza.

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